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this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel and the united states because in doing so, they could file complaints with the court about the occupation, how palestinians are being treated. right now they have no such recourse. this is what could trigger a backlash by the u.s. and israel, who are downplaying it now saying that it's really meaningless, it doesn't have much meaning, and in a sense they're right, but for the palestinians, as can you see there in ramallah, it has incredible meaning, and it's got meaning for mahmoud abbas and fatah. this is a group completely sidelined by what hamas was doing in gaza. these are th
this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel...
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move towards statehood but hillary rodham clinton warns it will undermind effort for peace talks with israel. >> it is a solution that fulfills the aspirations of the palestinians people is through jerusalem and not new york. >> reporter: it comes after 8 days of bloodshed between israel and hamas. it could certainly boost credibility with hamas but there will be a price for them. u.s. is threatening to cut off a half billion dollars in annual aid. reporting live allison burns, ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> in vallejo, it could be the work of an arsonist, and police are investigating two suspicious fires and that makes 6 in the last few weeks. it was at a mortgage business and just a half hour later another fire was called in. in the past two weeks, four other fires burned two homes and four businesses and they believe it is a transient to blame. >> i saw him actually sleeping where the fire was started. i am worried to death, i can tell you that. >> nobody has been hurt in any of the fires but vallejo police are having them to report any information about who may be responsible. >>> anot
move towards statehood but hillary rodham clinton warns it will undermind effort for peace talks with israel. >> it is a solution that fulfills the aspirations of the palestinians people is through jerusalem and not new york. >> reporter: it comes after 8 days of bloodshed between israel and hamas. it could certainly boost credibility with hamas but there will be a price for them. u.s. is threatening to cut off a half billion dollars in annual aid. reporting live allison burns, ktvu...
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israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has potential weapon in withholding tax revenue, collects on behalf of the palestinians. the best outcome here would be the united states goes well, we regret this, let's move on. and then the other aspect would, standing up immediately after this, but today in the u.n. and and say, i'm prepared to go into negotiations without preconditions. if you get those three, you know, legs of the stool, now you have something to kind of work with, if otherwise if everyone takes their own unilateral action you come out of this again, empowering hamas. >> p.j., where is the white house on this? i m
israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has...
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hamas and israel going on. it seemed mahmoud abbas becoming an influential figure here in the palestinian territories. a lot of people here also in the west bank that said hamas was essentially the one that stands up to israel. mahmoud abbas was seen as very weak. if you look at the several few days before this u.n. bid in the run up to all this, his poll numbers have really increased. he has gotten a lot more popular here in the palestinian territory. so, certainly, in many ways, this speech that he gave before that vote was a make or break moment for mahmoud abbas. it seems as though he carried some momentum from that. it's unclear, however, wolf, how long that is going to last. because tomorrow people are going to wake up and they're going to notice not much is going to change. the actual status of the palestinian territories really hasn't changed very much on the ground. that is something that israel has been saying, as well. they say in the end, this is a piece of paper. however, this is by no means that s
hamas and israel going on. it seemed mahmoud abbas becoming an influential figure here in the palestinian territories. a lot of people here also in the west bank that said hamas was essentially the one that stands up to israel. mahmoud abbas was seen as very weak. if you look at the several few days before this u.n. bid in the run up to all this, his poll numbers have really increased. he has gotten a lot more popular here in the palestinian territory. so, certainly, in many ways, this speech...
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equal in status with israel, and the united states. and anybody else belonging to the u.n. just for some context here, though, the plo has been a permanent observer. that's been their status since 1974. and that has given palestinians the right to speak out and be heard at the assembly. but it doesn't give them a right to vote. richard roth, who covers the u.n. extensively and is our cnn favorite on this topic, is there to really give a little more context as to what they wanted to and what kind of status it would give them and how far up in status it would actually elevate them. richard, tell us what it means. >> okay. first, just to clarify, hamas not really here with the palestinians. the palestinian president abbas is in new york, met with the secretary general last night. yes, this is, as usual with the u.n., words matter. sometimes one letter in a document could be a time bomb. what we have here is the u.n. upgrading later today the status of the palestinians here. they are in effect going to become sort of a state within a group of states. but really, as you mentione
equal in status with israel, and the united states. and anybody else belonging to the u.n. just for some context here, though, the plo has been a permanent observer. that's been their status since 1974. and that has given palestinians the right to speak out and be heard at the assembly. but it doesn't give them a right to vote. richard roth, who covers the u.n. extensively and is our cnn favorite on this topic, is there to really give a little more context as to what they wanted to and what...
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as lateral son reports, both israel and the united states don't like it. >> reporter: and despite the objections especially from the united states, palestine ans have been able to secure broad support ahead of the vote. they rallied as the president headed to the united nations to seek nonmember observer status. they see it as a significant move toward statehood but the secretary of state warns it'll undermine efforts to restart peace talks with israel. >> the path to a two state solution that fills the aspirations of the palestine people through them, not new york. >> reporter: the vet comes a week after a cease fire that stopped eight days of blood shed. if the palestine president wins the vote as he is expected to it could boost his creditability with hamas in any future negotiations, there could be a price for him. members of congress are threatening to cut the united states -- gives about a half billion dollars in yearly aid to palestine. are. some are threatening to cut that. >> let's bring you to up to date on other top storey. a teen girl from oakland is still missing this mor
as lateral son reports, both israel and the united states don't like it. >> reporter: and despite the objections especially from the united states, palestine ans have been able to secure broad support ahead of the vote. they rallied as the president headed to the united nations to seek nonmember observer status. they see it as a significant move toward statehood but the secretary of state warns it'll undermine efforts to restart peace talks with israel. >> the path to a two state...
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and israel are afraid of is that president abbas won't go back to the table because israel is so opposed, and he'll seek these other u.n. measures. that would exacerbate the crisis. >> all right. thank you. >> it's about 17 minutes after the hour. let's get you caught up on the top stories. mitt romney is on his way to the white house for lunch with the president. it's not clear if they will be discussing the fiscal cliff or a possible role for romney in the obama administration or if they're just having lunch. tim geithner also entering the fray, the chief fiscal cliff negotiator will meet with congressional leaders today in an attempt to get talks moving. >>> this alabama teen alleged by beaten by her girl friend's brother insists it didn't happen because she is day. they say the real story will come out when the time is right, for now that's all they're saying. the family is saying it is a hate crime and they want 18-year-old travis hawkins second degree charges upgraded to murder. >>> a texas man is in custody for allegedly making terrorist threats against a san antonio mosque. a wit
and israel are afraid of is that president abbas won't go back to the table because israel is so opposed, and he'll seek these other u.n. measures. that would exacerbate the crisis. >> all right. thank you. >> it's about 17 minutes after the hour. let's get you caught up on the top stories. mitt romney is on his way to the white house for lunch with the president. it's not clear if they will be discussing the fiscal cliff or a possible role for romney in the obama administration or...
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against the effort it could give palestinians new leverage against israel. mahmoud abbas has said he will not negotiate with israel as long as it keeps expanding settlements in the west bank. and the israeli prime minister has refused to freeze that construction. "the fox report's" correspondent jonathan hunt is at the united nations tonight. january jonathan explain the u.s. here. >> it boils down to the simple argue that officials believe this will hinder rather than help the peace process between the israelis and palestinians, that it will enable and encourage the palestinians to pursue war crimes charges in other international institutions such as the international criminal court against israeli officials over the actions that they have taken recently in past years in gaza. in the words of the secretary of state hillary clinton today, it is simply not helpful. listen. >> path to a two state solution that fulfills the aspirations of the palestinian people is through germ and ramallah, not new york. we oppose palestinian efforts to upgrade their status at
against the effort it could give palestinians new leverage against israel. mahmoud abbas has said he will not negotiate with israel as long as it keeps expanding settlements in the west bank. and the israeli prime minister has refused to freeze that construction. "the fox report's" correspondent jonathan hunt is at the united nations tonight. january jonathan explain the u.s. here. >> it boils down to the simple argue that officials believe this will hinder rather than help the...
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israel and the united states are against the you recognition. france and the rest of the european nations are in favor. reports out this area this morning that the entire country has no internet access right now. this is an unprecedented internet blacked out which comes from intense fighting from damascus. syria partially cut off and access but a nationwide shutdown has not happened until now. it is 927 and we'll be back in just a couple of minutes. sam francisco, a live look as we hold out for the drive morning commute continuing this morning. you can see the clouds they are just waiting to rain on this later on this afternoon. we will be right back. [ crickets chirping ] [ traffic passing ] ♪ [ music box: lullaby ] [ man on tv, indistinct ] ♪ [ lullaby continues ] [ baby coos ] [ man announcing ] millions are still exposed to the dangers... of secondhand smoke... and some of them can't do anything about it. ♪ [ continues ] [ gasping ] we are taking a look at the weather and off the coast piquancy here passed eureka that yellow is the rai
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and israel have tried to block the recognition, saying it's an attempt to block israeli/palestinian negotiations which broke down four years ago. >>> everybody is talking about tonight's big powerball drawings. the big numbers will be announced minutes from now. the jackpot stands at $550 million now, the second largest in u.s. history. powerball officials say there's a 75% chance that someone will have the winning numbers. so get your tickets out. do not change the channel, because greta will have the winning numbers as soon as they are drawn. two words. office pool. back to "on the record." >> greta: alarms are going off among some conservatives in president obama's second term, his liberal supporters are calling for income redistribution. who's doing that and how do they hope to make that happen and can they? byron york just wrote about that, along with the rest of our political panel. byron, you wrote the article. >> there's been a lot of talk during the campaign that president obama didn't have much of a second term agenda, that he just wanted to raise taxes, didn't have a lot else he wante
and israel have tried to block the recognition, saying it's an attempt to block israeli/palestinian negotiations which broke down four years ago. >>> everybody is talking about tonight's big powerball drawings. the big numbers will be announced minutes from now. the jackpot stands at $550 million now, the second largest in u.s. history. powerball officials say there's a 75% chance that someone will have the winning numbers. so get your tickets out. do not change the channel, because...
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it would provide international recognition for palestinian control over areas that israel captured in the six-day war. >> said many times that the path to a two-state solutionn that fulfilled the aspirerationn of the palestinian people is through jers lemm and ramallah and not new york. >> israel is saying it will not return to negotiations after the vote. >> brandd new details lurking in the train crash that kill would four wounded warriors. the railroad crossing only gave a 20 second warning that the train was coming. it is supposed to be 30 seconds. and the driver of the truck entered one second after the crossing guards began to lower. >> you are about to see a photothat turns a police officer in a hero now. he saw a homeless man in times square and had no shoes on his feet. he went to a scretcher's store and bought a pair of boots. a tourist of arizona snap today on the nypd page. the officer said he's kept the receipt for the is ever upon in h vest to remind him that people have it worse. >> he was worse walking around with just his jacket on. it went viral and another greatteni
it would provide international recognition for palestinian control over areas that israel captured in the six-day war. >> said many times that the path to a two-state solutionn that fulfilled the aspirerationn of the palestinian people is through jers lemm and ramallah and not new york. >> israel is saying it will not return to negotiations after the vote. >> brandd new details lurking in the train crash that kill would four wounded warriors. the railroad crossing only gave a...
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but israel and the u.s. are opposed to the bid, saying it violates peace accords. >>> yet another arrest this morning for lindsay lohan. the troubled starlet was charged with assault around 4:00 a.m. in manhattan. she allegedly punched another woman in the face at a new york city nightclub. the other woman was not arrested and was not taken to the hospital. >>> and now let's head to wall street. cnbc's mary thompson is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mary. >>> good morning, there's growing optimism that a budget deal will be reached to keep the u.s. from falling off the fiscal cliff. today, investors get another read on the holiday shopping season when retailers report their november figures for sales at stores open more than a year. >>> and general motors and its chinese partners are building a third plan in china in order to meet growing demand in that country. >> mary thompson at the new york stock exchange, thanks. >>> a heartwarming photo is going viral online for all of the right r
but israel and the u.s. are opposed to the bid, saying it violates peace accords. >>> yet another arrest this morning for lindsay lohan. the troubled starlet was charged with assault around 4:00 a.m. in manhattan. she allegedly punched another woman in the face at a new york city nightclub. the other woman was not arrested and was not taken to the hospital. >>> and now let's head to wall street. cnbc's mary thompson is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mary....